speaker boehner will address us. can the president say anything to make this whole week look like a dream? >> that's a tough one. what our lalt friend mark haines used to talk about, we need a capitulation, we need the answer, no, are you kidding? there was a congressman on "squawk" this morning say, yes, don't worry about it. when i hear that i say, no, it's not going to happen. we have to have them worry, as worried as we are. i still see this kind of grover norquist run republican party which would rather not have a tax increase and take the tit titanic down in the name of the country. >> viewers will say, wasn't wednesday a woosh? what qualifies a woosh at this point? in terms of the signs we've seen, isn't that qualified as a woosh. >> you open down and rally between 12 and 1. you get the 10 to 1 ratio. i'm just quoting mark haines. if you saw 20 to 1, you would say, you need to buy it. i need to see hains rules. he called too many huge bottoms using his rules. >> he had seen a few, david, as you know. i think o